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I've been betting on golf for two years now. I haven't come across any good services that bet H2H markets so been trying it out myself. I thought I would start posting to see if there's anyone who would bounce ideas off of, and more importantly to keep myself more accountable. Been posting under 'Bet The House' for this weekend and decided it would be cleaner and easier to follow up my notes if I started my own thread. Let's have some fun!

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Originally Posted by kingpickz
1 unit : Aaron Rai ov Ben Griffin (+104) available at BookMaker / (+103) at BetOnline
1 unit : Erik Van Rooyen ov Max McGreevy (-119) available at Pinnacle / (-131) at BookMaker
1 unit : Ludvig Aberg Top 20 (-140) available at BetOnline - in event of a tie, dead-heat rules will apply.

I've circled three central themes I'm going to base around:
1) distance/long irons. - last year 9 of the top 12 ranked T25 in driving distance.
2) greens in reg. - 10 of last 13 winners ranked T10.
3) putting (bent/poa mix) - 10 of last 13 winners ranked T10 for putting.

- Rai ranks 18th in the field in Weighted Prox., bigger diff. w/ the long irons (30th v 78th). Second, Rai ranks 20th in GIR (v 45th for Griffin). Rai's SG:OTT ranks 30th in the field (v 99th for Griffin), and excels at narrow fairways (12th) + thick rough (14th) which could prove a distinct advantage this weekend. Third, putting metrics edge Rai especially when I started weighing Poa greens, add in the fact Griffin ranks 148th in the field putting on Poa greens + he's outperformed his metrics over L24 rounds. 3 factors edge Rai and I believe he should be a short fav in this matchup.

- For starters, EVR ranks 93 spots better (30th) than Max (123rd) in my model rankings. Max has missed the cut in the past two events and ranks outside the top 100 in SG:PUT (weighted, Poa & Bent), Long irons (OTT:Thick rough + OTT:Narrow fairways) and driving distance. He actually really excels at scrambling/bogey avoidance which is why his SG:Approach is ranked 12th. I just really think he's going to struggle converting these long Par 4's and WAY overvalued which makes him a good fade candidate. I chose the EVR route b/c he ranks T15 in Weighted SG:T2G, Distance/ Long irons & Weighted prox. EVR lost 1.51 strokes putting last week when he MC at the AMEX. I'm not really concerned bc a) that's a birdie fest where you can't lose with your putter and b) he actually gained 2.74 strokes T2G which will do him wonders this week in tougher conditions. EVR is 24th (80 spots better) in overall weighted scoring meaning he should convert his par chances more often than Max.
**For those w/o Pinny, BookMaker also offers this wager currently at -131 and I would also recommend the -1.5 strokes at -101 as I do believe Max will ultimately miss the cut for the third straight week.

- Aberg ranks 1st in my model and was my first click at 12/1 on Monday (10/1 sill avail at Kambi books under enhanced offerings). Finished 9th at Farmer's last year, already has a T5 in Hawaii this season. Ranks top 5 in the field in; Weighted SG:TOT, SG:T2G, SG: Long + Difficult Scoring, Distance + Long irons (OTT thick rough + OTT narrow fairways), Overall scoring. Dudes a stud. He'll see success striking the ball in the three core themes I've circled. He gained +2.81 SG:PUT in round 4 of the Sentry, if he can maintain half of that momentum I predict he gets in the mix on Saturday and gets the first "signature win" of his career.


Near misses;
- I bet Hideki Matsuyama 'Top Japanese' at -180 and obviously I like Aberg in all these markets (Swedish/Cont. European/Scandinavian) depending how much risk you wanna take on.
- I'm personally betting Doug Ghim ov Harris English -105 at Pinnacle, I'd probably even lay -120 at bookmaker too. Big discrepancies across the board, just some weird market moves on English that I don't understand this week.
- Jaeger has been in great form and I think +100 ov Spaun is a decent shout, although if you have access to 'Top German' at +130 a much better route. Hopefully we'll have a good opportunity round-by-round.
- I really wanted to get behind Finau in some fashion but I just can't trust his putter enough.
- wanted some exposure on Berger but his matchups v Rodgers (-110) and v Smalley (-120) probably pretty fair prices.


I've been betting on golf for two years now. I haven't come across any good services that bet H2H markets so been trying it out myself. I thought I would start posting to see if there's anyone who would bounce ideas off of, and to keep myself more accountable. Starting the season fresh here and hopefully have some fun! YTD 0-0, +0.0u

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Originally Posted by kingpickz
Farmer's Insurance

Typically my approach in-tournament is to look at the underlying SG metrics and fade the guys who gained a bunch putting, and lost on OTT / APP (and vice-versa for buy on guys). Hate the NC bc no data, I can't believe it's 2025 and we don't have shot tracking at every PGA course. Anyways,

Fades:
Matthieu Pavon: -3.73 T2G (mostly on his approach play), +3.33 PUT. I'm going to stay away because his matchups are heavily juiced, and last year he gained SG:PUT on every round and finished +1.99 on the weekend on route to victory.
Stephan Jaeger: -2.65 SG:APP led to negative on T2G and compensated with +2.16 SG:PUT. Pre-tournament rankings say he could go low tomorrow, pass.
Emilliano Grillo: -7.01 !! SG:T2G, +1.59 SG:PUT but couldn't save him from 6 over par round. I see a matchup vs Lee Hodges on BookMaker that intrigues me, matches up really well but not a position worth risking -150 over. I'd lay -0.5 -120 if that becomes available in the morning, though.

Buys:
Tony Finau: the reason why I had to leave him out of my pre-tournament card... +2.74 T2G but lost -2.16 PUT. Maybe something still lasting with his surgery from the offseason, stays on the no bet list for now.
Sungjae Im: +2.62 TSG & +3.58 SG:TOT on the tough south course. I'm not a DFS or underdog player but he ranked #1 on my pre-tournament NC scoring. I think he goes real low tomorrow. Not sure the best way to attack it right now (live placement, live outright good ideas). I'll probably be kicking myself when I didn't lay -130 vs Finau and it's a rocking chair winner.


1 unit : Mac Meissner o Adam Svensson (-135), available at BookMaker
0.5 unit : Sungjae Im o Tony Finau (-130), available at BetOnline

- Model liked Mac and ranks 28th in NC scoring (vs 106th), has the edge with his long irons and his putter. Slight concern of his 11/18 GIR today but it's more of a bet against Svensson. His putter won't keep up w/ Mac (2 good par saves + 1 birdie today) and his course history doesn't suggest he'll turn the page (scored +2 on the NC last year). 83 spots differentiate these two in my live model, I'll pay to see it.
- I kept typing and talked myself into it, this really shouldn't be the same price as it was in round 1.
- I'll be back in the am to see if we can lay -0.5 w/ Hodges, if not it'll stay a lean at -150.

Near Misses;
Lee Hodges o E Grillo (-150)
Jhonny Vegas o Justin Lower (-130), model says at this price it's a go, Vegas +2.58 SG:TOT today but don't entirely trust his putter enough. If he shows it tmrw, I'll look to back him on H2H's over the weekend.
Doug Ghim o M Kim (-135), liked Ghim pre-tourney and M. Kim was horrendous on Wed., but price is a bit steep for me.



Pending:
1 unit : Aaron Rai ov Ben Griffin (+104)
1 unit : Erik Van Rooyen ov Max McGreevy (-119)
1 unit : Ludvig Aberg Top 20 (-140) dead-heat rules apply.

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Farmer's Insurance

What a crazy round. All in all, feel the reads were there and the wind shouldn't factor in as much for tomorrow!

Fades:
- Luke Clanton, -0.81 T2G and +5.04 (!!) SG:T2G isn't sustainable. 9/16 GIR & 6/12 FW is just asking for trouble... he didn't finish his round today (darkness) so we won't see matchups until morning.
- Sahith Theegala, only 50% on GIR/FW + outside top 40 in all SG metrics except putting..+2.78 SG:PUT (4th highest in the field).
- Jake Knapp, verbatim as Theegala and gained +2.31 strokes putting (7th in the field), 7/16 GIR & 6/13 FW so far is really, really bad for a guy who has as much pop as him. He has 2 holes left and I'll be rooting for a par or better finish from him so we can fade R3/R4.

Buys:
- Ludvig Aberg, +1.9 T2G but lost 1.29 on PUT. I'm gonna say his two three-putts were mainly due to the wind and he bounces back tomorrow.
- Andrew Novak, +3.29 (!!) T2G but shot +3. He's been in really poor form heading into this weekend so he's been off my radar.
- Taylor Pendrith, +2.35 SG:T2G (10th) but lost 1.75 SG:PUT. He ranked 8th overall pre-tournament for me, and 13th for putting. I think we see a solid weekend performance from him, last year he shot -4 on the weekend and gained strokes in every category.

Near Misses;
- Taylor Pendrith o Max Greyserman (-120)
- Nearly Anyone o Jake Knapp **I'm hoping to look at what matchups we can get in the morning, looks like play will resume 7:30am PST.
- Lanto Griffin has such a great round but water eventually meets its level and I don't see him keeping up anywhere near his +4.3 SG:T2G numbers. Weighing in pre-tournament values, he still ranks 58th in my model.



Record: R2 goes 1-1, -0.85, leans 3-0. Our FT matchups are now official, and we stand 3-1, +1.19 in all.
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1 unit : Ludvig Aberg Top 20 (-140) dead-heat rules apply.

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Farmer's Insurance R4

Good reads for the most part, Ludvig the big miss I'd say. Broadcast kept talking about an illness he had, I think we could start having a conversion on him struggling on the big boy courses! Anyways, here's some thoughts going into the final round;

- English continues to ride his putter ranking 5th in the field for R3 + 3rd overall for the event. Pre-tourney I ranked him 74th, but T20 in all metrics regarding his SG: ARG + PUT.
- Novak +5.87 SG:TOT today tied 1st w/ English. The difference is he is gaining in every metric across the board, and outgaining English when including the windy Thurs. at the SC. +350 to win pretty juicy, although with the current construction of the leaderboard it seems it's anybody's game tomorrow.
- Potgieter 3rd in the field for SG:TOT today, ARG still seems to be his downfall. Incredible bounce back from yesterday's round, I'm excited to watch how he performs tomorrow, but there's an added component of 'being in the mix' that we are yet to see from him at the PGA level. If the Nedbank is any indicator, he may crumble in R4 yet again when in position.

1 unit : Chan Kim o Jake Knapp (-140), available at BetOnline
- we were unfortunate not to get a matchup against Knapp today, but he continues to outperform his metrics -1.89 SG:T2G (most important metrics negative... -1.06 OTT, -2.05 APP) and gained +2.76 putting (top 10 in the field AGAIN).. Highest ranked putter in the field and outside top 50 in OTT/APP. Add on the fact that he's hit 8/18 GIR (17/36 this wkd) + 2/14 (!!) FW (9/14 this wkd), he remains a prime fade candidate as he will continue to put himself in disadvantageous positions with these stats. Going against him we get Chan Kim, who so far has shot 6 under in two rounds at the SC, +6.45 SG:TOT (+4.08 T2G). He ranks 4th in my model on OTT+APP, 15th PUT and 14 spots higher than Knapp. If you're looking for a cheaper price, -0.5 available at -120 I see Kim winning by 2+ strokes, but given the difference of half a stroke is only 20 cents (I think it should be valued closer to 30 on low scoring courses), I'm opting for the -140 where ties result in a push.

0.5 unit : Kyoung-Hoon Lee o Aldrich Potgieter (-110), available at DraftKings
- I wrote of Potgieter's 4th round woes above and here we get to play against him with a golfer who continues to putt really well on these greens and has hit 25/36 GIR + 23/28 FW in two rounds at the SC. Should be a slight favorite pricing wise which suggests to me we're getting good value, and that's before weighing in the "intangibles."



Near Misses;
- Andrew Novak o Harris English (-110) available at BetOnline, live model says these guys are within 2 spots of each other so a coin flip pricing seems fair moreso.
- Taylor Pendrith o Sahith Theegala (-117) available at BookMaker, Pendrith +3.95 (!!) SG:T2G today, but lost 2.08 putting. If his putting woes turn around, Taylor could put up a low score tomorrow.
- wish I could find a way to back Jason Day, as he had a really good day ball striking. He has great course history I think he could put a good score on the board. The problem is the two matchups I see for him are against Hideki & Im, two guys I've been high on pre- & in-tournament.



Record: no play R3, leans move to 4-0. Officially 3-1, +1.19 this weekend.
Pending:
1 unit : Ludvig Aberg Top 20 (-140) dead-heat rules apply.

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Originally Posted by kingpickz
Farmer's Insurance R4

1 unit : Chan Kim o Jake Knapp (-140), available at BetOnline
- we were unfortunate not to get a matchup against Knapp today, but he continues to outperform his metrics -1.89 SG:T2G (most important metrics negative... -1.06 OTT, -2.05 APP) and gained +2.76 putting (top 10 in the field AGAIN).. Highest ranked putter in the field and outside top 50 in OTT/APP. Add on the fact that he's hit 8/18 GIR (17/36 this wkd) + 2/14 (!!) FW (9/14 this wkd), he remains a prime fade candidate as he will continue to put himself in disadvantageous positions with these stats. Going against him we get Chan Kim, who so far has shot 6 under in two rounds at the SC, +6.45 SG:TOT (+4.08 T2G). He ranks 4th in my model on OTT+APP, 15th PUT and 14 spots higher than Knapp. If you're looking for a cheaper price, -0.5 available at -120 I see Kim winning by 2+ strokes, but given the difference of half a stroke is only 20 cents (I think it should be valued closer to 30 on low scoring courses), I'm opting for the -140 where ties result in a push.

0.5 unit : Kyoung-Hoon Lee o Aldrich Potgieter (-110), available at DraftKings
- I wrote of Potgieter's 4th round woes above and here we get to play against him with a golfer who continues to putt really well on these greens and has hit 25/36 GIR + 23/28 FW in two rounds at the SC. Should be a slight favorite pricing wise which suggests to me we're getting good value, and that's before weighing in the "intangibles."

*ADDED*
1 unit : Taylor Pendrith o Luke Clanton & Noah Goodwin (+115), available at BetOnline
dead-heat rules apply. (found under "3-Ball" or "Groups" on some other books)
- I crossed out my lean below of Pendrith/Theegala. After glancing over the groupings again, more confident backing Pendrith this way, but more interested in fading Clanton (above I indicated a good FADE candidate after overachieving in the first two rounds (and his putter let him down today) rather than Theegala. Good luck to us.


Near Misses;
- Andrew Novak o Harris English (-110) available at BetOnline, live model says these guys are within 2 spots of each other so a coin flip pricing seems fair moreso.
- Taylor Pendrith o Sahith Theegala (-117) available at BookMaker, Pendrith +3.95 (!!) SG:T2G today, but lost 2.08 putting. If his putting woes turn around, Taylor could put up a low score tomorrow.
- wish I could find a way to back Jason Day, as he had a really good day ball striking. He has great course history I think he could put a good score on the board. The problem is the two matchups I see for him are against Hideki & Im, two guys I've been high on pre- & in-tournament.



Record: no play R3, leans move to 4-0. Officially 3-1, +1.19 this weekend.
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1 unit : Ludvig Aberg Top 20 (-140) dead-heat rules apply.

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Good Luck! This is one sport I never got into, all though I won numerous putt putt tournaments! Don't ask! I went to a golf course down in West Palm Beach once, it had to be the most miserable experience ever. I'm sure they are still finding all the balls I lost that day LOL There was no such thing as fore!, try forty per hole LOL


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Faarmer's Insurance Recap

1 unit : [FT] Aaron Rai ov Ben Griffin (+104), WIN +1.04 units
1 unit : [FT]: Erik Van Rooyen ov Max McGreevy (-119), WIN +1.00 units
1 unit : [FT] Ludvig Aberg Top 20 (-140), LOSS -1.40 units
1 unit : [R2] Mac Meissner o Adam Svensson (-135), LOSS -1.35 units
0.5 unit : [R2] Sungjae Im o Tony Finau (-130), WIN +0.50 units
1 unit : [R4]Chan Kim o Jake Knapp (-140), LOSS -1.40 units
1 unit : [R4] Taylor Pendrith o Luke Clanton & Noah Goodwin (+115), WIN +1.15 units
0.5 unit : [R4] Kyoung-Hoon Lee o Aldrich Potgieter (-110), WIN +0.50 units

Staked 8.54, P/L +0.04 units (0.46%)
Leans 4-1

Round 4 wasn't kind to us, late bogeys by Chan Kim & Novak lost the official + lean, and the falloff for Ludvig from first to outside T40 still stings. The wins were clear reads, and I'm glad we stacked early profit so it didn't cost us a negative tournament. I have some previous commitments on Wed/Thurs this week so not sure I'll get to the same breakdown as I did last week, I might just look for an in-tourney angle instead.

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PGA - AT&T Pebble Beach

Don't have the time for a full break down, but thought I'd give write up plays for transparency (for my own sake at least).

1 unit : [FT] Tom Hoge ov Harris English (EV), available at BookMaker and BetOnline
- Hoge great course history + we get to fade a defending champ after partying all week!!

1 unit : [FT] Wyndham Clark ov Corey Conners (+108), available at BetOnline
- Again great course history here but my model is really down on Conners this week, and that warrants a bet. I believe it is mainly due to his putting woes on the West coast greens.


leans;
- Sam Burns ov Tom Fleetwood (+110), available at BookMaker. I really like Burns to show out this weekend, grabbed 46/1 outright at Pinnacle early on Tues. Good course fit but market hates him for that reason I won't be going crazy but T20/T10 are bets I really like. I respect market moves too much so this is one I'll have to look back on..

- I bet on some spike putters this week, fav of the bunch is Denny McCarthy outright at 100/1 (80+ is good to go) & in a matchup ov Aaron Rai, as well as Nick Taylor (boom or bust as always).

- don't trust the top of the board, Rory seems overvalued to me + Thomas/Cantlay super popular. My issue is simply... have they shown us they can even win?? not in the last year+ ... especially not at an elevated event, especially not if Scottie Scheffler is breathing down your neck at the top of the board late on a Sunday.

YTD: staked 8.54u, profit +0.04u (+0.46% returns), leans 4-1.
Gooood luck!!

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1 unit : [R2] Scottie Scheffler ov Rory McIlroy (-140), available at BetOnline

Rory has a history of fast starts, and fades as tournaments progress (perhaps not this early, but you get the point). But my real handicap is this price seems so far off. Assuming market efficiency (which I would say so with a liquid market like golf), Scottie was heavily BET UP and closed -225 ov Rory full tourney. Now after one round we suggest a 10.9% decline on that projection? If FT pricing is in fact correct, that means Scottie will outperform Rory by AT LEAST one stroke over the next 3 rounds. Gambling is random sometimes, and golf is even moreso. But I simply can't wrap my head around this price more than anything.

Oh yeah, and odds of Rory and Lowry out drinking tonight is >50% : Context - Rory & Lowry are good buddies and have played on Ryder Cup together many times, they both scored a hole-in-one today and in PGA it means the first round is on them (yea, NOT kidding). It's like a cherry on top, I suppose. Best of luck

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1 unit : [R2] Scottie Scheffler ov Rory McIlroy (-140), available at BetOnline

A few more quick thoughts on R2: (I wasn't able to shot track or even dive deep, been a long day)
- Hoge also shot -3 but his stats look very promising. Leads my model in predictive scoring, meaning if his putter could just regress back to the damn mean our matchup would look great!
- Henley's score looks great but has definetely overachieved. unfortunately BOL seems to know that as well, the matchup to bet against him is Adam Scott. no thanks.

It's a no cut event so there will be good opportunities this weekend, and looks like there will be some weather coming (hopefully).

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1 unit : Scottie Scheffler ov Rory McIlroy (-150), available at Heritage

Running this back with the same handicap as yesterday, price. Still not high enough, should be over -180 IMO. The difference today was the (somewhat miraculous) par on 18th by Scottie, and Rory hit an Eagle on the same hole. Scottie smartens up and probably somehow sets himself up to contend on Sunday. Good luck



R2 recap: 1 push. staked 1.4u, P/L +0.0u

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Pebble Recap

1-2-1, staked 4.9u, P/L -1.5 (-30.6% returns).
ytd 6-5-1, staked 13.44u, P/L -1.46u (-10.9% returns). Leans 4-1

Unfortunately I didn't put the time in I needed to. Shame on me for forcing action.
Waste breakdown likely to come tomorrow

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PGA Waste Management Phoenix Open

1 unit : [FT] Mac Meissner ov Nico Echavarria (-132), available at BetOnline.

0.5 unit : [FT] Sam Burns Top 10 (+260), available at FanDuel or DraftKings - in event of a tie, dead-heat rules will apply.

1 unit : [R1] Justin Thomas ov Nick Dunlap & Luke Clanton (+100), available at FanDuel - in event of a tie, dead-heat rules will apply.

1 unit : [R1] Scottie Scheffler Top 20 after Round 1 (-110), available at any Kambi book (BetRivers, etc.), slightly worse price at Bet365.


back with a VENGEANCE!

Strong Leans
Robert MacIntyre -0.5 ov Max Greyserman (-109), available at Stake - ties LOSE. I couldn’t find this on a domestic so I didn’t think it was to be on record but this is a STRONG 1 unit selection in my own portfolio.

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Quick writeup for the R1 plays. I will reiterate Scottie should be a multi-unit play, fantastic edge (in my opinion). Problem is Kambi operators are scumbags so we’ll stick with 1 unit in fairness.

1 unit : [R1] Justin Thomas ov Nick Dunlap & Luke Clanton (+100), available at FanDuel - in event of a tie, dead-heat rules will apply.
- JT has advantages SG:APP, scrambling & excellent course history here. I see Dunlap as a non-runner here and Clanton’s greatest advantage is SG:OTT (APP/OTT/Scrambling 3 characteristics I’m weighing heavily this weekend), but I actually think Clanton will have a conservative approach to ensure he makes the weekend- a made cut ensures he gets his tour card. Even money for the better golfer and a course he excels at, sign me up.

1 unit : [R1] Scottie Scheffler Top 20 after Round 1 (-110), available at any Kambi book (BetRivers, etc.), slightly shorter odds at Bet365.
- I had to find a way to get Scottie on my card somehow. He’s the best golfer in the field by margin, and this course is just tailor-made for his game (his first PGA win came here 2(?) years ago I think?). Last season in Scottie’s 20 PGA starts, he was T20 or better at the end of the first round in 18 or them (90%). The two misses were at US Open, and Colonial (got caught in bad wave w/ weather). So I’m getting the best golfer in the world, at arguably the course that best suits his game, in a placement with a 90% hit right and it’s -110 odds. No brainer, this is a BEST BET!

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1 unit : [R2] Justin Thomas ov Nick Dunlap & Luke Clanton (-105), available at BetOnline/FanDuel.

Running it back, for all the reasons in R1 + the eye test showed me today these guys are just on different levels at the moment. “Keep it simple, stupid.” BOL-

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1 unit : [R4] Scottie Scheffler ov Will Chandler & Cameron Young (-200), available at Kambi books.

1 unit : Thomas Detry to Win (-165), available at FanDuel.


These are both initially driven by off-market prices, but Detry is absolutely rolling and with a 5 shot lead I really have a hard time seeing anyone catch up to him (dreaded last words ofc). And with regards to the Scheffler matchup, I looked for a way to fade Cam Young and it came down to this (sharper books offer the 3-ball matchup at -265, so already an edge here), or a Robert MacIntyre matchup that is available around a pk'em at Bet365 or Bovada, except my limits have been slashed so I don't feel comfortable suggesting a play in which I'm not betting myself.

Currently sitting -0.65 on the tourney so a split does us no good, but I love our odds to get back into the winners column!


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