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this guy is totally bullshit, he is garbage, no one bet or ever pay this guy,
i kept seeing his record and decided to do some research, and it took about three
Minutes to realize he is a douchebag and cannot win anything and is a thief

I believe you LJ868 that you do in fact pay for the best bets that you post. I emailed him and received the same plays via text for a few weeks. And after I didn't pay him to keep receiving the plays he stoped sending them to me. My problem is the record you post on all of his plays. It's crap! Maybe overtime he hits a decent winning percentage on those best bets, but claiming over 70% on all of his bets in every sport every year is utterly Ridiculous.

The posting of his regular plays with incredible winning percentage is where the scam lies. Ask to purchase all of his plays as well as the best bets. You can't, because they don't exist. Stop posting his fake records.

Some one I know has had conversations with him via telephone, only for football. He is good in FOOTBALL. We cant confirm those numbers .

Sorry time expired and I couldnt edit.. He gave my friend 3 plays, in football and they all won.. I believe the minimum is 100 $ weekly for the text.

football Jesus is football devil he must go

Not so fast my friend. March best bets posted by LJ868 were 20-9-1 hitting 69%

Like I said, maybe overtime he hits a decent winning percentage on those "best bets". I believe his posted records are bogus. He's not documented anywhere. Seems he's might be a decent handicapper, just shady regarding false advertised records.

Football Jesus LV "Best Bets" posted by LJ868

2025 Total 53-40 57%

57% is pretty good... but not even close to his claimed record.

Here's a rule of thumb I go by when dealing with paid touts. If they do not track their picks transparently, every single pick, do not buy from them. Think about it. If they really are as good as they say, they'd have no problem transparently tracking themselves. Would you ever go to a landscaper and hire him without seeing his work? Same thing with touts.

And the more people would do this they'd be forced to show their TRUE records. But people continue to buy picks from them without records so they don't show it.

Lastly, don't short yourselves in making your own picks. I bet most people would do better than touts or about the same. Track yourselves. Or enter Freak's Bad Man contest and see how you do. Freak does a great job tracking everything and I bet most people's win % would be better than these bullshit touts.

"pretty good" well ok, but in ur own words, "not even close to what he claims" sounds like a fraud to me, he is a liar

he was usually the 1st service listed every day in the paid pros area, now i have not seen him in a few days

How can Football Jesus LV consistently win at over 70% in every sport? It's simple, he can't because these are unverified false claims. They are not posted and tracked on his website like his free plays are.

He gives out free plays on his website and via text by request, which he also fasly claims to hit at 70% consistently. 325-138-3 = 70% in 2024 and 61-21 = 74% so far in 2025.

The free plays posted on his website are not the same as the plays that are sent via text. The free plays record is a combination of free plays posted on his site and requested free text plays.

The only way to get the free text play is to request it daily via text, there is no free play text list. These plays are even more deceitful and misleading. The free text plays are only logged on his website after they go final. There is no way to verify every free text play.

There are many ways he manipulates the free plays record. For example, I noticed that he sometimes uses his paid plays posted by LJ868 on his free plays record keeping page, but only the winners and never the losers.

Because they are easier to manipulate and falsify, he logs and keeps track of the free plays on his website and not the client paid releases. No legitimate handicapper tracks and posts their free plays record and not their paid client releases.

where does it say these are " BEST BETS" and are they ALL of the BEST BETS ?? or just the ones that leaked to the forum ??

you DONT KNOW so dont make assumptions on what YOU DONT KNOW FOR SURE

ONE PLAY IS OBVIOUSLY NOT ALL OF THE plays each day ,

you have to PAY FOR ALL OF THEM ! some are free picks as well, TEDDY COVERS & others give out CLIENT PLAYS AS FREE picks

are THEY ALL SCAMMING people ? no !!!

if you guys HATE handicappers so much why are you here ??



just because YOU or OTHERS dont win at a high percentage doesnt mean NO ONE DOES, !! IT IS possible that some , a few WIN at HIGH percentages just because ALL DONT does not mean NONE do

seems to me you guys just bad mouth stuff based on speculation , OPINION and the few picks posted here in forum

talk about transparency? have you been to wager talk?? they NEVER post any SEASON records ! and every claim is "" BEST CAPPER since 2022" , " highest % in NBA over three years or this YEAR" but NOT SAYING THE actual % which could be THE BEST at 55%!!!! because the rest are below that

never THIS seasons RECORD or last SEASONS record

so YEAH all these guys put out BEST ANGLE on what they do and we only SEE one play a day or handfull a week , BUT NOT all of the plays from each Capper

just bet the ones you like and skip the ones you dont

TRY paying a handicapper for a MONTH or a year and then YOU KNOW ALL the plays and whether to buy again the next TIME,

I'm not making assumptions. LJ868 said that they are his paid releases. LJ868 also said that he doesn't post all of Football Jesus LV plays. Sounds like you're the one making assumptions.

And you're wrong, no one wins over 70% consistently in every sport every year.

TRY paying a handicapper for a MONTH or a year and then YOU KNOW ALL the plays and whether to buy again the next TIME,[/quote]

I'm a retired forensic analyst with lvmpd. I've had season subscriptions in 80's and 90's with the likes of Jim Fiest, Marc Lawrence, Joe Gavazzi. I subscribe to Matt Severence and Sportsline because they are fully transparent and consistently win and not at at laughable 70% clip.

Is LJ868 shilling for Football Jesus LV?

Every day when LJ868 posts Football Jesus LV's early release he posts it along with a fraudulent record. Why keep posting obviously fraudulent records if you're not affiliated with the scam? His posts also contain messages letting people know about getting the rest of Football Jesus LV's plays by text. Things like: will text more later or check website for update. But he only ever posts one play per day. This is on purpose, meant to be enticing. Why post things like this unless your shilling? If it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck... yea it's a duck.

Football Jesus LV claims to hit 70% on his client releases and 70% on his free plays consistently in every sport. Yet his early releases posted daily by LJ868 on Paid Professionals are a meager 53% for the last 7 months.

October 2024 to April 2025 98-88 53%

For those who say this is just one pick a day, that he has more picks. That may be true, we wouldn't know for sure as they've never been posted. Let's say he does have more anyway... He would have to hit upwards of 85% to 90% to equal out the 53% of known picks to get to 70%. Does that really seem possible to anyone besides his shill LJ868?

September 13-16-1 45%
LOL

Prove you're not a shill.

LJ868 posts FJVL every day and around half of those days he posts FJLV along with other guys like Ben Burns, Steve Merrill, Adam Trigger etc. If you paid for several handicappers and it came to your attention that one of them was an obvious fraud or at the very least was not profitable.... Would you get defensive, lie and stick up for the fraud? Or would you be relieved, realizing that your money could be invested in better choices? Would you stop posting the fraud and continue posting the other reputable guys or stop posting all together?

You could continue to post FJLV and leave out the bogus records and shilling.

Like I said before, I really do appreciate you posting, even Football Jesus LV. Prove you're not a shill and continue posting the plays, just leave out the bs

48-21 football Jesus days mpb to date, hes the absolute best capper ever, why are we all wasting time, just best 100 bucks a day on his plays and you can clear almost 15k a year, dam, what have i been missing