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this guy is totally bullshit, he is garbage, no one bet or ever pay this guy,
i kept seeing his record and decided to do some research, and it took about three
Minutes to realize he is a douchebag and cannot win anything and is a thief

I believe you LJ868 that you do in fact pay for the best bets that you post. I emailed him and received the same plays via text for a few weeks. And after I didn't pay him to keep receiving the plays he stoped sending them to me. My problem is the record you post on all of his plays. It's crap! Maybe overtime he hits a decent winning percentage on those best bets, but claiming over 70% on all of his bets in every sport every year is utterly Ridiculous.

The posting of his regular plays with incredible winning percentage is where the scam lies. Ask to purchase all of his plays as well as the best bets. You can't, because they don't exist. Stop posting his fake records.

Some one I know has had conversations with him via telephone, only for football. He is good in FOOTBALL. We cant confirm those numbers .

Sorry time expired and I couldnt edit.. He gave my friend 3 plays, in football and they all won.. I believe the minimum is 100 $ weekly for the text.

football Jesus is football devil he must go

Not so fast my friend. March best bets posted by LJ868 were 20-9-1 hitting 69%

Like I said, maybe overtime he hits a decent winning percentage on those "best bets". I believe his posted records are bogus. He's not documented anywhere. Seems he's might be a decent handicapper, just shady regarding false advertised records.

Football Jesus LV "Best Bets" posted by LJ868

2025 Total 53-40 57%

57% is pretty good... but not even close to his claimed record.

Here's a rule of thumb I go by when dealing with paid touts. If they do not track their picks transparently, every single pick, do not buy from them. Think about it. If they really are as good as they say, they'd have no problem transparently tracking themselves. Would you ever go to a landscaper and hire him without seeing his work? Same thing with touts.

And the more people would do this they'd be forced to show their TRUE records. But people continue to buy picks from them without records so they don't show it.

Lastly, don't short yourselves in making your own picks. I bet most people would do better than touts or about the same. Track yourselves. Or enter Freak's Bad Man contest and see how you do. Freak does a great job tracking everything and I bet most people's win % would be better than these bullshit touts.

"pretty good" well ok, but in ur own words, "not even close to what he claims" sounds like a fraud to me, he is a liar

he was usually the 1st service listed every day in the paid pros area, now i have not seen him in a few days

How can Football Jesus LV consistently win at over 70% in every sport? It's simple, he can't because these are unverified false claims. They are not posted and tracked on his website like his free plays are.

He gives out free plays on his website and via text by request, which he also fasly claims to hit at 70% consistently. 325-138-3 = 70% in 2024 and 61-21 = 74% so far in 2025.

The free plays posted on his website are not the same as the plays that are sent via text. The free plays record is a combination of free plays posted on his site and requested free text plays.

The only way to get the free text play is to request it daily via text, there is no free play text list. These plays are even more deceitful and misleading. The free text plays are only logged on his website after they go final. There is no way to verify every free text play.

There are many ways he manipulates the free plays record. For example, I noticed that he sometimes uses his paid plays posted by LJ868 on his free plays record keeping page, but only the winners and never the losers.

Because they are easier to manipulate and falsify, he logs and keeps track of the free plays on his website and not the client paid releases. No legitimate handicapper tracks and posts their free plays record and not their paid client releases.

where does it say these are " BEST BETS" and are they ALL of the BEST BETS ?? or just the ones that leaked to the forum ??

you DONT KNOW so dont make assumptions on what YOU DONT KNOW FOR SURE

ONE PLAY IS OBVIOUSLY NOT ALL OF THE plays each day ,

you have to PAY FOR ALL OF THEM ! some are free picks as well, TEDDY COVERS & others give out CLIENT PLAYS AS FREE picks

are THEY ALL SCAMMING people ? no !!!

if you guys HATE handicappers so much why are you here ??



just because YOU or OTHERS dont win at a high percentage doesnt mean NO ONE DOES, !! IT IS possible that some , a few WIN at HIGH percentages just because ALL DONT does not mean NONE do

seems to me you guys just bad mouth stuff based on speculation , OPINION and the few picks posted here in forum

talk about transparency? have you been to wager talk?? they NEVER post any SEASON records ! and every claim is "" BEST CAPPER since 2022" , " highest % in NBA over three years or this YEAR" but NOT SAYING THE actual % which could be THE BEST at 55%!!!! because the rest are below that

never THIS seasons RECORD or last SEASONS record

so YEAH all these guys put out BEST ANGLE on what they do and we only SEE one play a day or handfull a week , BUT NOT all of the plays from each Capper

just bet the ones you like and skip the ones you dont

TRY paying a handicapper for a MONTH or a year and then YOU KNOW ALL the plays and whether to buy again the next TIME,

I'm not making assumptions. LJ868 said that they are his paid releases. LJ868 also said that he doesn't post all of Football Jesus LV plays. Sounds like you're the one making assumptions.

And you're wrong, no one wins over 70% consistently in every sport every year.

TRY paying a handicapper for a MONTH or a year and then YOU KNOW ALL the plays and whether to buy again the next TIME,[/quote]

I'm a retired forensic analyst with lvmpd. I've had season subscriptions in 80's and 90's with the likes of Jim Fiest, Marc Lawrence, Joe Gavazzi. I subscribe to Matt Severence and Sportsline because they are fully transparent and consistently win and not at at laughable 70% clip.

Is LJ868 shilling for Football Jesus LV?

Every day when LJ868 posts Football Jesus LV's early release he posts it along with a fraudulent record. Why keep posting obviously fraudulent records if you're not affiliated with the scam? His posts also contain messages letting people know about getting the rest of Football Jesus LV's plays by text. Things like: will text more later or check website for update. But he only ever posts one play per day. This is on purpose, meant to be enticing. Why post things like this unless your shilling? If it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck... yea it's a duck.

Football Jesus LV claims to hit 70% on his client releases and 70% on his free plays consistently in every sport. Yet his early releases posted daily by LJ868 on Paid Professionals are a meager 53% for the last 7 months.

October 2024 to April 2025 98-88 53%

For those who say this is just one pick a day, that he has more picks. That may be true, we wouldn't know for sure as they've never been posted. Let's say he does have more anyway... He would have to hit upwards of 85% to 90% to equal out the 53% of known picks to get to 70%. Does that really seem possible to anyone besides his shill LJ868?

September 13-16-1 45%
LOL

Prove you're not a shill.

LJ868 posts FJVL every day and around half of those days he posts FJLV along with other guys like Ben Burns, Steve Merrill, Adam Trigger etc. If you paid for several handicappers and it came to your attention that one of them was an obvious fraud or at the very least was not profitable.... Would you get defensive, lie and stick up for the fraud? Or would you be relieved, realizing that your money could be invested in better choices? Would you stop posting the fraud and continue posting the other reputable guys or stop posting all together?

You could continue to post FJLV and leave out the bogus records and shilling.

Like I said before, I really do appreciate you posting, even Football Jesus LV. Prove you're not a shill and continue posting the plays, just leave out the bs

48-21 football Jesus days mpb to date, hes the absolute best capper ever, why are we all wasting time, just best 100 bucks a day on his plays and you can clear almost 15k a year, dam, what have i been missing

I wondered about this. With that type of record, would be much more sought after.

Fraudball Jesus LV

Posted CFL Record
5-2

Posted Plays on this site
2-4

Lair Lair, Pants on Fire![

Newly posted CFL Record today...
CFL bets 2025 8-4 after wk 3
That's 6-0 on plays not posted here....
We're so unlucky!

Anyone who believes Football Jesus LV is not a fraud is a straight up fucking moron!

Fraudball Jesus LV

POSTED RECORDS (Fraudulent)

Total 843-371 = 69.4%

2025 CFL 8-4 = 67%
2025 MLB 105-47 = 69%
2025 UFL 16-4 = 80%
2025 NHL 34-12, 19-9 = 72%
2025 NBA 83-37, 39-18 = 69%
2025 CBB 136-63 = 68%
2024 CFL 48-21 = 70%
2024 NFL 182-82 = 69%
2024 CFB 173-74 = 70%


POSTED PLAYS (Actual)

June 4-8 = 33%

Total 200-184 = 52.1%


Football Jesus LV claims to hit nearly 70% CONSISTENTLY!
In Every Sport
Every Season
Every Year without Fail
BEWARE if you Pay for his service...
You Will FAIL...

Football Jesus LV is a FRAUD

I stand on the other side of things. Records can be misleading. It's all about units won/lost.

You can have a losing record betting underdogs but be + $ especially in MLB.

I agree, but his plays are mostly favorites and some big one at that.

Posted Record Today:
(CFL bets 2025 REG season 13-6 after wk 4)

He's 2-6 on Plays Posted here,
Does anyone really think he's 11-0 on Plays not posted here?
DELUSIONAL

Here are his MLB posted odds for 2025. Not one dog and some heavy favorites....

-110
-150
-122
-168
-110
-152
-120
-183
-134
-110
-160
-165
-172
-172
-135
-138

I'm sorry Freak but this is the Football Jesus is a fraud thread (which I didn't start by the way). It sounds like you're describing Bruce Marshall or Zack Cimini. No offense but it's not a valid point and doesn't apply to Fraudball Jesus who picks heavy favorites and little to no dogs. It just solidifies how much more of a shit handicapper Fraudball Jesus LV really is.

I'm not describing anyone in particular. I made the statement that in my book aka the other side of the story........... that a W/L record means nothing. It's all about units won/lost.

You could be 75-25 and lose money. Frankly this carrying on about football jesus just gives him more attention that he doesn't deserve.

Football Jackwagon

July 0-3
0%
-489

7/03 Winnipeg Blue Bombers -160 LOSS
-160
7/04 LA Dodgers -174 LOSS
-334
7/05 Montreal Alouettes -155 LOSS
-489

C'MON, YOU CAN PICK BIGGER FAVORITES THAN THAT!

I signed up recently with Football Jesus LV & 1st week his bets he texted went 16-6 on CFL & MLB

and on his web site the FREE picks he posts daily have now cashed 12 in a row

not all bets won !

but I can text him directly , he responds right away , WE TALKED on phone about strategy the first day for my budget, ( try getting any cappers direct cell phone!!! Good luck ! you only get customer service emails at everyplace else)

and lets me ask about any game i want, texting back REAL professional service from the actual guy & i LIKE THAT

you can complain all you want about 2-3 picks posted here I will just cash on the ENTIRE information i paid for

I don't believe you. Prove it... post the plays.

How we know LJ868 is a shill for Football Jesus LV?

LJ868 claims he gets all of Football Jesus LV's plays. Yet never, not once in 2 years of posting Football Jesus LV's plays has he posted more than one play per day. He said that he is too busy to post the rest of his plays. Too busy every day for 2 years?

When he posts the one play, it's always with a bogus, unverified and way too good to be true record. A record that hits nearly 70% every day, every week, every month, in every sport... ALWAYS! (Sorry, but this is not possible)

Why is it LJ868 posts only one play per day and hits 52.1% over 2 years of posting. Yet the records posted along with that one play per day, hit 69.4% over the same 2 years. The answer is simple. If he posted more than one play a day it would expose the fraudulent record.

Freak himself has told me that he is not a shill, but when you say things like, "if your on the text list will text bets directly or check website for update" and add false records to the post, it by definition becomes shilling.

I don't see the problem with supporting or promoting someone, it should be encouraged. I have no problem with Football Jesus LV's plays being posted, whether it be one per day or all of them. But when you add a false record to the post and encourage people to get the rest of his plays, it by definition becomes shilling.

You say that I'm angry, I'm not, I'm just disappointed. I really like this site. I post daily. The moto on the logo says: Proudly serving the gaming community. When freaksforum legitimizes the fraud by allowing it to continue posting fraudulent records daily, it hurts it's credibility and I find that disappointing. But that's just my opinion and this is a forum and that's what forums are for.

This is a type of post that drives people away. If you don’t like FJ and his picks then skip by them. The handicappers is telling the customer to check the website not the poster telling us.

FJ has been posted for years all over the place and it’s been the same style of posting by multiple users. I’ve personally either interacted with or met some of the people. By far they aren’t shills.

Posters post what they want to post pick wise after all they paid for it. I have posters that send me picks to post because they don’t want their name associated with the picks because they could lose access to what they paid for.

Enjoy what is being posted and move on already from FJ. This site isn’t tarnished by someone posting what they paid for and how it was sent to them. 25 years of owning this forum and by myself as owner and I’ve seen and heard it all.

If you really want to prove him wrong buy a package and track him and share the results and then you can see if it matches up.

This is the only way……

I'm sure you're right freak, but I wouldn't spend a dime on him. Step up DodgersMan...

YES comments and hate & false accusations I DONT NEED< and will drive posters away ,this used to happen at other forums

NOW other forums are FREE of complaints and accusations , which is nice


, im so tired of the hate here & other parts the internet i may just take a break and see if the hate and complaints stop

Why would anyone post em , I did, and others & you just complained and hurled insults


I spent he Money and WELL SPENT...

I just Had a good 30 days experience

Started 16-6

Ended 56-25

Its not a cheap sports service , with GOY's and junk ...it cost more than most

But I won like 4x more than 30 days prior


More than enough to Cover the cost if subscribing & information & having direct access by text/Phone for up to date bet info from vegas is something I have not got anywhere else, EVER.


If you want to critique it FINE. But you don’t have first hand knowledge of EVERYTHING until you & subscribe for yourself.


Looks like the last guy posting his picks just got insulted subjected to Bashing, Name Calling, and the other pettiness & apparently, he has left the forum or died I dont want to get insulted and bashed either so Im staying out of it !!!!

If all you do is complain & insult the guys providing information THEY PAID FOR you just run them off to go elsewhere


I prefer to just find a winning guy, & stay out of the FRAY good luck to you all

sorry he has gone elsewhere well too bad you got run out by these no proof conspiracy guys, flat earthers , derangement syndrome haters who never paid for the plays like you


seems like the guys who pay for ALL plays are HAPPY & winning and the guys that get 1-2 straggler free picks here and there a week are the ones who complain.

IM going see for my self as well and pay for subscription for a time and at least win and know all the plays sent to me

Hey guys, I was actually searching other forums about FBJ and ran into this website. I am an active poster elsewhere, so I'd hope to contribute here, too.

I have been tracking FBJ for a LONG time, first as a paid subscriber, which I didn't track and it cost me $5K. I was a small bettor and he wasn't even close to 55%. He missed texts that he "won," blah blah blah. So I started a thread under sawastea that has tracked him for a few months last year (Jan through March), then I restarted YTD 2026 based on the picks on his website and the free picks posted in the forum. I started early April, so the website picks are from 4/4/26 and the picks posted in the forum are YTD. I track and built an excel model that tracks this clown, and here are the pick totals:

VERIFIED RECORD BY SAWASTEA
Independently tracked
Total Bets 112
Record (W-L-P) 50-60-2
Win Rate % 45.5%

Net Units (P/L) (15.33)
ROI % -13.7%

I have all the games tracked, scores by sport, etc. Here is the post:
__________________________________

Updated record by sport:
*Note: While I captured ALL of the forum plays since 1/1/26, I was unable to verify the website until 4/4 where Istarted tracking him.

Below are the forum records.
33-41-1, -8.19

Below are the totals between the forum and Website

MLB
15-22, -10.45

NCAABB
14-22, -2.27
*Note: He had a few longshot futures that I cannot verify that they were posted of Arizona and Michigan making the F4 that were +8.8 units, which I counted

NFL
3-1, +1.5

NBA
1-3, -2.63

NHL
7-7, -1.92
*Note: He has some high odd futures that will flip this into the positive

NCAAFB
1-0, +0.71

I posted this a few days ago,

Today's NYY game was "Gore and Weathers as starters." Weathers was scratched and the NYY won, he counts the win. The last three other games where the pitcher was scratched and they lost, he waived a white flag and they were voided. He subsequently adds a win after that said game was over. He deleted one of the games from his website, Colorado from tghat day.

Yesterday was Milwaukee, they lost and he immedialely added Birmingham win. I took screenshots but can't upload images.

This guy's lack of transparency is mind-bogling. Glad I'm watching this guy. Hope no one is following him blindly...