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L10 is done posting here.

No value to give Nuttin' But Winners anymore....

L10 will ask Freak to make dis Thread PRIVATE ONLY.

Good Luck to all!

For what it's worth L10.....I just started following your stuff two weeks ago and saw how well you've done do far. Keep it up buddy, you're doing great!

L10...your the best..Let me know where you go...following you from back in the 90's....

Sent you a text L-10. This is a great site and the value is You!

Let me give a clearer message.

L10 isn't going to another forum, he isn't leaving.

L10 is upset that people don't contribute to not only this area but in the forum as a whole.

He is tired of doing all the work, winning and people coming, taking his picks and winning but yet no thanks, no gratitude.

This is something I have been saying about the forum as a whole for quite some time. I'll give you two examples.

1. Service Play area, if I don't post on a daily basis as much as I do, nobody else does.

2. I see there is a post in the forum called Thank You Freak or something close to that. I think 3 or 4 people have replied to the original poster.

This is bothersome on so many levels, I've done this for over 20 years day in day out. I've missed so many of my kids things when they grew up, it's pathetic. I've put this ahead of my very own family.

It hit me hard this past Saturday seeing my oldest son getting married and I thought to myself, where the hell did the time go.

Then later that night, L10 texts me and tells me he is going to become Lazarus and play golf. I ask what is going on and he almost word for word echo'd what I have been saying and thinking for quite some time.

He puts a lot of work into his handicapping and sure he can be grandiose about it, but isn't that what makes L10, L10.

Between WNBA and NCAA alone he has crushed it along with Executioner.

L10 and I are alike in a lot of ways, we are passionate about what we do, we drive to succeed and we want people to crush the books.

He does it with his effort on his handicapping and I do it with the forum as a whole.

The bottom line is we all like appreciation, but when you don't get any and get taken advantage of, it leaves a bitter taste.

A post takes little time to do, to post your own picks in the Bet The House area, takes little time. To root on people in Las Vegas Contests, to thank people, to take part in the forum is so easy to do.

I've said it before and I'll say it now, there are forums out there that offer 1/100th of what is done here and yet their posters out post the thousands of members here 1000-1 easily.

I haven't decided if I am going to lock this up for private members only, make it where you can see it with a certain amount of posts or something else.

I am going to give it a few days and see what transpires not only here but in the rest of the forum.

The best part of life is giving. Not taking. I learned that long ago.

Post moved to a topic that all will see.

Couldn't agree with you more Freak and L10. If everyone posts just one comment or contribution a day, I feel it will multiply.

I have the same theory applied to my everyday life.....give all expect nothing

I post plays daily. Not nearly the talent as L-10 or Ex. But I appreciate all they do and others on this site. If you don't understand what Freak is saying then go 1 week without looking at what they post on this site. That will wake you up. So Yes! Thank you L-10, Ex, Freak, Golden Greek and others. You guys do this for nothing. It is appreciated and not taken for granted on my end.

we'll be posting daily from now on and helping out with any info I can find concerning NCAA football and baskets...

Have been around a while and really appreciate what people like L10, Hoops, bscougar, Andre, Billy boy, Rickles, iceage and many others do on a weekly basis. Was really into it a couple of years back but the last web site could not control assholes and the wrong person was exiled unfortunately. Just like to pass along a rule that I have always followed concerning betting lines.

A rule of thumb (this does NOT apply to all spreads, just most!) you should avoid laying -2.5, -6.5, -9.5 and -3.5. These numbers are inviting you to bet on spreads that appear to be allowing you to win on key numbers. The book isn't this stupid. Their offering easy cheesey lines because they believe just the opposite is going to happen.

Great point. Denver -7.5 then -8. Look what happened. And I bet many took the Texans because of the line.

Fellas,

I appreciate the feedback and comments. My view is really quite simple. I offer what is one of the longest running single owner forums without the bullcrap and nonsense.

What I really want to see happen is people posting and being involved. I don't expect people to post 100 posts a day or anything like that.

If you come here and gain information, give something back in the form of a post. I can out a lot of people and flame them with ease but I don't.

What I really could use help with is posting of Service Plays. I am involved in three Las Vegas contests and running three of my own contests. It takes a lot of time and effort then add in Service Plays, Trends and Angles, answering e-mails and trying to promote the forum via social media, it doesn't leave me much time for myself.

It would be one thing if I was making any money, but I don't make a single cent. I pay to enter my own contests and do all the work.

A little insight, oh and did I mention I have to find time to handicap the games. LOL

Seriously though, I don't post write ups, I post the capper and the picks. If you notice, I don't post each and every BS no name capper out there. Why would I expose you to a bunch of nobodies and you risk your money because a bunch of bs cappers say to.

I do post the well known names and weed out the junk unlike other sites, that's my choice but my goal is to help you to win and make $$$$ not to lose it.

We have some the smartest and intelligent handicappers on this site not to mention some of the nicest people you'd ever meet in person. I've been fortunate to meet quite a few and believe me they aren't assholes, they are down to earth people that truly put the work in and get winning results.

Someone mentioned another forum and there was issues there, you haven't had that here, nor will you ever. I don't ban people because I can, I only will do it if it is absolutely necessary.

Perhaps there isn't bs drama here and people want it, I sure don't.

If you know of people that love sports, love wagering and can offer something to the forum, please by all means, bring them over, introduce them to the site and let's get rocking.

Thanks.

FYI...I for one have been reluctant in posting on this forum. I am not a capper but I do know L-10 and Executioner personally. I know these two cappers work hard to post their picks for all to see. Freak you gave me a last moment chance to enter the Badman contest (thru L-10's help) last year and that paid offf for me and I am in it again this year, I enjoy the added excitement on NFL games. Thanks for that also. I enjoy the site and hopefully you will make the rite decision as which way to go with it. Thanks again to you, Ex and L-10 and all the others that post here....GL to all.

I will send some service plays to help Freak. Where do you want them posted?

Service Play area. Just look to see how they are posted and keep them without write ups and url's. Pretty simple.

Example

Capper Name

unit or star rating then selection.

If it's a GOY, GOM etc, just post what it is so I can track it in the Expert Selections thread.

Appreciate the help