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"BLACK BOX" NFL Wagers Week 12 2004 #62346 11/25/04 01:37 AM
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OP MR_MJ JV Squad Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 15 Wisconsin	Hi Everyone! First post here. The Freak has been kind enough to allow me to share my new statistical based system called the "Black Box". It has been very good since week #4 this year...with only one losing week in week #8 for a small drawdown. Of course there are no guarantees going forward. Please read my disclaimer below. Good luck! Comments are welcome! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Cool]" src="images/icons/cool.gif" /> Against the Spread Picks: Method A – 37-13-0: 74% since week 4. Steelers -10.5 Redskins Bengals -6 Browns Seahawks -5 Bills Texans +1.5 Titans Bears +3.5 Cowboys Panthers +2.5 Bucs Method B – 6-3-0: 67% since week 4 when stripped of Method A picks. Lions +9.5 Colts Method C – 10-5-2: 67% since week 4 when stripped of Method A picks. Eagles -7 Giants Jets -3 Cards MoneyLine Picks: Method A – 13-4-0: 76.5% since week 4 Bears +160 Cowboys Panthers +125 Bucs Texans ML OFF Titans (if ML gets posted, it is a ML play) Method B – 6-3-0: 67% since week 4 when stripped of Method A picks. Lions +340 Colts Method C – Does not produce moneyline picks, it is a favorite only method. *DISCLAIMER: I make no guarantees. I accept no liability for their use. In fact I consider this as strictly for entertainment purposes only! All Wagers,reference to money, online sports books,odds and spreads are considered to be for illustrative purposes only. I do not recommend gambling and do not recommend the use of any online sportsbook ,establishment or method.

Re: "BLACK BOX" NFL Wagers Week 12 2004 #62347 11/25/04 01:51 AM
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OP MR_MJ JV Squad Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 15 Wisconsin	Here is an explanation of the "Black Box" that I hope will answer some questions that people may have. The references to "we" would be a friend of mine who does most if not all of the number crunching and actual calculations. This is a lot of work! We enjoy sharing and hope to learn from others by doing so.WE DO NOT HAVE A PAY SITE OR SERVICE! We do post in various forums to share the picks and have time and date stamps to verify our history. There are three separate methods that are considered core systems. Then we have four or five others that we track. We track all systems, even core systems B and C in relation to core system A. By this I mean we track both totals and stripped from our core system A. For Example: Core System (Method A): Packers - won Rams - lost Eagles - won Other System (Method C): Rams - lost Eagles - won Jets - won Core system record 2-1 Other system record 2-1 Other system stripped of core picks record 1-0 Overtime these numbers become important because if the core system is picking out all the winners and the other system is just adding a bunch of losers, the other system is worthless. However, if the other system, when stripped of the core picks is still doing well, it makes sense to continue to bet the other system. I hope that clarifies our process. Enjoy!

Re: "BLACK BOX" NFL Wagers Week 12 2004 #62348 11/25/04 04:20 AM
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FREAK Owner Joined: Dec 2000 Posts: 282,100 Likes: 3068 Time to play the Game	Can you elaborate in the amount of units the systems have won? Are they of equal value? When you say stripped of system A, what exactly are you referring to? What happened the first three weeks? Thanks for the input, and welcome aboard. By the way, the disclaimer is not valid here, it's ok to post this info !!

Re: "BLACK BOX" NFL Wagers Week 12 2004 #62349 11/25/04 05:35 AM
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OP MR_MJ JV Squad Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 15 Wisconsin	Thanks for the welcome Freak.na. We intend to find out. We urge caution because there is very little history to go on...but so far so good. Thanks again for allowing us to share. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="images/icons/smile.gif" />

Re: "BLACK BOX" NFL Wagers Week 12 2004 #62350 11/25/04 10:08 PM
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b12try Junior Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 662 harrisburg , PA	So what does the black box purpose this week?

Re: "BLACK BOX" NFL Wagers Week 12 2004 #62351 11/26/04 09:20 AM
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Marsellus JV Squad Joined: Jun 2002 Posts: 55 Georgia	I heard that there's a book titled like Danny Gold or something like that which has methods for winning while betting on sports. Just in case any of you guys are interested.

Re: "BLACK BOX" NFL Wagers Week 12 2004 #62352 11/27/04 05:15 AM
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OP MR_MJ JV Squad Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 15 Wisconsin	</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by b12try: <strong> So what does the black box purpose this week? </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">The picks for week #12 and the past history of of those picks are posted in my first post on this thread.

Re: "BLACK BOX" NFL Wagers Week 12 2004 #62353 11/27/04 07:09 PM
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b12try Junior Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 662 harrisburg , PA	THANK YOU !!!!

Re: "BLACK BOX" NFL Wagers Week 12 2004 #62354 11/28/04 12:17 AM
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OP MR_MJ JV Squad Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 15 Wisconsin	</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by b12try: <strong> THANK YOU !!!! </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Your welcome! Lets see if we can kick some bookie ass this weekend. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" />

Re: "BLACK BOX" NFL Wagers Week 12 2004 #62355 11/29/04 02:43 AM
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OP MR_MJ JV Squad Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 15 Wisconsin	Depending on how you played this weeks picks its not a great week or a bad week. Small loss,small gain or break even. Actually its still possible to have a pretty good week if one only played the spread bets. Method A still looks solid with its spread picks and moneyline picks. Method B I suspect will get a good hard look from SERocks and probably go back to watch status until we get a better idea of its performance over time. All in all no harm done ,and if you stuck with just spread bets you may have pounded out a nice gain. As usual I will wrap up this weeks picks later tonight or tomorrow with a post of this weeks record.

Re: "BLACK BOX" NFL Wagers Week 12 2004 #62356 11/29/04 06:30 AM
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b12try Junior Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 662 harrisburg , PA	UR RIGHT ..NOT BAD I CAN SEE THIS BEING USEFULL..TAKES AWAY THE GUESSING ANYWAY !!!!

Re: "BLACK BOX" NFL Wagers Week 12 2004 #62357 11/29/04 11:15 AM
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OP MR_MJ JV Squad Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 15 Wisconsin	"BLACK BOX" Week #12 Wrap up. 7-6 Over all. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="images/icons/smile.gif" /> 5-4 on spread bets. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="images/icons/smile.gif" /> 2-2 on moneyline. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="images/icons/smile.gif" /> WEEK 12 picks are: Against the Spread Picks: Method A – 37-13-0: 74% since week 4. Steelers -10.5 Redskins L Bengals -6 Browns W Seahawks -5 Bills L Texans +1.5 Titans W Bears +3.5 Cowboys L Panthers +2.5 Bucs W Method B – 6-3-0: 67% since week 4 when stripped of Method A picks. Lions +9.5 Colts L Method C – 10-5-2: 67% since week 4 when stripped of Method A picks. Eagles -7 Giants W Jets -3 Cards W MoneyLine Picks: Method A – 13-4-0: 76.5% since week 4 Bears +160 Cowboys L Panthers +125 Bucs W Texans ML OFF Titans (if ML gets posted, it is a ML play) W Method B – 6-3-0: 67% since week 4 when stripped of Method A picks. Lions +340 Colts L

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